Kim Hiscott, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Andrew Fleck Children’s Services sat down with Debbie Groff, Child Care Deputy Senior Administrator for the Department of Children, Youth and Families (DCYF) in Washington State. In 2021, Washington State became the first state in the US to license outdoor, nature-based childcare programs for preschool and school-age children. In the interview, Debbie shares some insights on that process and discusses ways their model may be used to inform and advance licensing of outdoor childcare in Canada. Click here to view the interview.